Examples

The following examples illustrate the application of the rules and limitations as set forth in section
208(9)(f) and section 1453(k-1) and Subpart 3-8 of this Part, as such provisions were in effect on December 31, 2014, as well as the application of the rules and limitations in section 3-8.2 of this Subpart, in computing the eligible Federal and New York State (NYS) NOL carryover amounts and the amount of the UNOL for a corporation or combined group. Numbers in the examples have been rounded. To the extent the examples reference an “as if” Federal NOL, it either means that the corporation was included in a Federal consolidated return and, in order to compute its UNOL, computes its income and loss amounts “as if” it filed separately for Federal purposes or the composition of the Federal consolidated return and the New York combined group are different and in order to compute the UNOL of the combined group, the group computes its income and loss amounts “as if” the New York combined group was the Federal consolidated group.
Example 1:
ABC Company, a calendar-year taxpayer, began business in 2009 and became taxable in NYS in 2011. ABC Company's base year is calendar year 2014. ABC Company had Federal/NYS income and losses, and applied its NOLs for tax years beginning before 1/1/2015, as follows:
ABC Company
"As if" Federal
Federal Taxable Income (FTI)
Eligible NOL carryover amount
12/31/2014
2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014
($1,500) ($800) ($500) ($400) $300 $600
NOL Carried Forward from 2009 to 2013 $300 ($300)
NOL Carried Forward from 2009 to 2014
Balance
NY
Entire Net income (ENI)
Balance
$600 ($600)
($600) ($800) ($500) ($400) $0 $0 ($900)
($600) ($500) $250 $400
($600) ($500) $250 $400 ($1,100)
Computation of ABC Company's eligible NOL carryover amounts and UNOL.
A Federal NOL sustained in a tax year that ABC Company was not subject to tax in New York State (i.e. the NOLs incurred in 2009 and 2010) cannot be included in ABC Company’s eligible Federal NOL carryover amount. Therefore, ABC Company’s eligible Federal NOL carryover amount is ($900). ABC Company’s eligible NYS NOL carryover amount is ($1,100). ABC Company's UNOL is ($900), which is the lesser of its eligible Federal NOL carryover amount and its eligible NYS NOL carryover amount.
Example 2:
XYZ Company, a calendar-year NYS taxpayer, began business in 2009 and became taxable in NYS in 2009. XYZ
Company's base year is calendar year 2014. XYZ Company had Federal/NYS income and losses, and applied its NOLs for tax years beginning before 1/1/2015, as follows:
XYZ Company 2009 2010
"As if" Federal
FTI ($1,000) ($1,200)
NOL Carried Forward from 2009 to 2011 $600
NOL Carried Forward from 2009 to 2013 $300
Balance ($100) ($1,200)
NY
ENI $200 ($1,000)
Balance $200 ($1,000)
Eligible NOL carryover amount
2011 2012 2013 2014 12/31/2014
$600 ($400) $300 ($700)
($600)
($300)
$0 ($400) $0 ($700) ($2,300)
($300) ($100) $400 ($500)
($300) ($100) $400 ($500) ($1,600)
Computation of XYZ Company's eligible NOL carryover amounts and UNOL.
XYZ Company’s Federal and NYS NOLs available for carryover are only included in the eligible Federal and NYS NOL carryover amount, respectively, when there is both a Federal and New York State NOL sustained in the same taxable year and available for carryover as of the last day of the corporation’s base year. Thus, only the Federal NOLs sustained in 2010, 2012, and 2014 and available for carryover as of the last day of its base year are included in the eligible Federal NOL carryover amount. The Federal NOL sustained in 2009 is not included in the eligible Federal NOL carryover amount as there was no corresponding NYS NOL sustained in that year and available for carryover.
The NYS NOL sustained in 2011 is not included in the eligible NYS NOL carryover amount as there was no corresponding Federal NOL sustained in that year and available for carryover. ABC Company's UNOL is ($1,600), which is the lesser of its eligible Federal NOL carryover amount and its eligible NYS NOL carryover amount.
Example 3:
Corporations L, M, N, and O are calendar-year taxpayers that began doing business in 2011 and properly filed as members of a combined group in NYS for 2011 through 2014. The combined group's base year is calendar year 2014. The combined group had Federal/NYS losses for tax years beginning before 1/1/2015, as follows:
Federal "as if"
group's eligible
NOL carryover
2013 FTI
Federal 2011 FTI 2012 FTI
L ($400) $100
M $980 ($3,000)
N ($600) $1,900
O ($900) ($1,100)
Totals ($920) ($2,100)
NYS
Combined
2014 FTI amount 12/31/2014
($200) ($920)
($500) ($2,300)
($1,400) $140
$700 ($1,500)
($1,400) ($4,580) ($9,000)
Combined group's eligible NYS NOL carryover amount
2013 ENI
Group 2011 ENI 2012 ENI
L ($500) $500
M $850 ($2,000)
N ($600) $2,000
O ($1,000) ($1,000)
Totals ($1,250) ($500)
2014 ENI 12/31/2014
($300) ($750)
($600) ($2,000)
($1,500) $250
$500 ($1,000)
($1,900) ($3,500) ($7,150)
Computation of base year combined group’s eligible NOL carryover amounts and UNOL and Corporation L’s, M’s, N’s and O's UNOL.
The base year combined group’s Federal and NYS NOLs sustained in 2011 through 2014 and available for carryover as of the last day of its base year are included in its eligible Federal and NYS NOL carryover amount, respectively, since there were both Federal and NYS NOLs sustained in each of these taxable years and available for carryover as of the last day of its base year. The resulting base year combined group’s eligible Federal NOL carryover amount is ($9,000) and its eligible NYS NOL carryover amount is ($7,150). The base year combined group's UNOL is ($7,150), which is the lesser of its eligible Federal NOL carryover amount and its eligible NYS NOL carryover amount. Each member of the base year combined group must then compute its own UNOL, by multiplying the base year combined group's UNOL amount of ($7,150) by a percentage that represents each member’s contribution of losses to the combined group’s UNOL and as illustrated below:
NYS
Combined
Member's losses as a % of total losses of all members Member's
2013 ENI
Group 2011 ENI 2012 ENI
L ($500) $500
$850 ($2,000)
M
($600) $2,000
N
($1,000) ($1,000)
O
Totals ($1,250) ($500)
2014 ENI Losses by Member with losses UNOL
13.77% ($984)
($300) ($750) ($1,550)
($600) ($2,000) ($4,600) 40.89% ($2,924)
($1,500) $250 ($2,100) 18.67% ($1,335)
$500 ($1,000) ($3,000) 26.67% ($1,907)
($1,900) ($3,500) ($11,250) 100.00% ($7,150)
Combined Group: 2011 2012 2013 2014
Eligible
NOL carryover amount
12/31/2014
"As if" Federal
FTI
Combined Group:
Corporation E ($10,000) ($7,000) $2,000 $3,000
Corporation F ($6,000) $650 $150 $1,000
Total for Federal "as if" group ($16,000) ($6,350) $2,150 $4,000
NOL Carried Forward from 2011 to 2013 $2,150 ($2,150)
NOL Carried Forward from 2011 to 2014 $4,000 ($4,000)
Balance ($9,850) ($6,350) $0 $0 ($16,200)
NY
ENI
Combined Group:
Corporation E ($11,000) ($7,700) $2,500 $4,000
Corporation F ($4,000) $100 ($200) $800
Total for combined group ($15,000) ($7,600) $2,300 $4,800
NOL Carried Forward from 2011 to 2013 $2,150 ($2,150)
NOL Carried Forward from 2011 to 2014 $4,000 ($4,000)
Balance ($8,850) ($7,600) $150 $800 ($16,450)
Computation of the base year combined group’s eligible NOL carryover amounts and UNOL and
Corporation E’s and F’s UNOL. The NYS NOLs carried forward from 2011 and deductible in
2013 and 2014 are limited to the amount of the “as if” Federal NOLs carried forward from 2011 to those years. Therefore, the Federal deduction limitation would limit the group’s NYS NOL deduction in 2013 and 2014 to $2,150 and $4,000 respectively. The base year combined group’s Federal and NYS NOLs sustained in 2011 and 2012 and available for carryover as of the last day of its base year are included in its eligible Federal and NYS NOL carryover amount, respectively, since there were both Federal and NY State NOLs sustained in each of these taxable years and available for carryover as of the last day of the combined group’s base year. The base year combined group’s UNOL is ($16,200), which is the lesser of its eligible Federal NOL carryover amount and its eligible NYS NOL carryover amount. Each member of the base year combined group must then compute its own UNOL, by multiplying the base year combined group's UNOL amount of ($16,200) by a percentage that represents each member's contribution of losses to the combined group's UNOL and as illustrated below. Since 2013 is a net income year for the combined group, Corporation F's loss of ($200) in 2013 is not included in the losses by member amounts below.
Corporations E and F are calendar-year taxpayers that began doing business in 2011 and properly filed as members of a combined group in NYS for 2011 through 2014. The combined group's base year is calendar year 2014. The combined group had Federal/NYS income and losses, and applied its NOLs for tax years beginning before 1/1/2015, as follows:
Example 4:
Example 4 (continued):
2011 NYS
NOL after
Member's losses as a
% of total losses of all
2014 carry 2012 2013 members Member's
NYS forward NYS NYS
Member
Losses by with losses UNOL
NOL
(see note) NOL NOL
E ($6,490) ($7,600) $0
F ($2,360) $0 $0
Totals ($8,850) ($7,600) $0
Member
$0 ($14,090) 86% ($13,932)
$0 ($2,360) 14% ($2,268)
$0 ($16,450) 100% ($16,200)
NOTE: Since some of the 2011 combined NOL was deductible in 2013 and 2014, the remaining available NOL from 2011 ($8,850) is allocated to Corporations E and F based on each corporation's original loss in 2011 divided by the total combined loss for 2011 ($15,000) as follows:
Corporation E: 8,850 * (11,000/15,000) = 6,490
Corporation F: 8,850 * (4,000/15,000) = 2,360
Example 5:
During calendar tax year 2011, Corporation T filed separately in NYS and was not part of an affiliated group. In 2012, Corporation T began filing combined in NYS as a member of Group P, which consisted of Corporations Q and R, in addition to Corporation T. Group P had no Federal or NYS NOLs prior to 2012; Corporation T had no Federal or NYS NOLs prior to 2011. Group P's base year is calendar year 2014. Corporation T had an NOL for both Federal and NYS purposes in 2011, which is a Separate Return Limitation Year (“SRLY”); the SRLY NOL was not subject to IRC section 382 limitations. Corporation T and Combined Group P had Federal/NYS income and losses, and applied the NOLs for tax years beginning before 1/1/2015, as follows:
Corporation T
Federal
FTI
SRLY NOL Carried Forward from
2011 to 2012 (to Group P)
Balance
NY
ENI
NOL Carried Forward from
2011 to 2012 (to Group P)
Balance
Group P
"As if" Federal
FTI
Group P:
Corporation Q
Corporation R
Prior Combined Group Q and R gain/loss
Corporation T
Total for Federal "as if" group
SRLY NOL Carried Forward from 2011 (from Corp T) to 2012
Balance
2011
($250)
$100
($150)
($300)
$100
($200)
T's SRLY Group P's
NOL Eligible available NOL after carryover carryforward amounts
2011 12/31/2014
2012 2013 2014
$50 ($150) $100
$50 $50 $150
$100 ($100) $250
$100 ($200) ($250)
$200 ($300) $0
($100)
($150) $100 ($300) $0 ($450)
Example 5 (continued):
T's SRLY
NOL available after
Group P's
Eligible
NOL carryover carryforward
2011
NY
ENI
Group P:
Corporation Q
Corporation R
Prior Combined Group Q and R gain/loss
Corporation T
Total for Combined Group P
NOL Carried Forward from 2011
(from Corp T) to 2012 amounts
12/31/2014
2012 2013 2014
($200) ($100) $50
$50 $50 $50
($150) ($50) $100
$300 ($150) ($150)
$150 ($200) ($50)
($100)
($150)
Balance $50 ($200) $0 ($350)
Computation of base year Group P’s eligible NOL carryover amounts and UNOL and Corporation Q’s, R’s, and T’s UNOL. The amount of Corporation T’s SRLY NOL from 2011 that can be carried forward to Group P is ($250), which is the lesser of the Federal or State NOL available and is the limitation for a loss sustained in an individual tax period being carried to a combined period. The deduction by Group P in 2012 is limited to $100, the amount of Corporation T’s FTI for 2012. The NOLs remaining in 2011 and 2013 are included in Group P's eligible NYS carryover amount since there were both Federal and State NOL’s sustained in each of those taxable years and available for carryover as of the last day of Group P’s base year. Group P’s NYS NOL sustained in 2014 ($50) is not included in the eligible carryover amount as there was no corresponding Federal NOL by Group P in that taxable year and available for carryover. Group P’s UNOL is ($350) and includes the remaining loss available from the 2011 taxable period of ($150) along with ($200) from the 2013 tax period, being the lesser of the Federal or State NOL available.
Each member of the base year combined Group P must then compute its own UNOL. Corporation T will have the ($150) remaining from the 2011 taxable year and its portion of the combined loss from the 2013 taxable year as determined by multiplying Group P’s combined loss of ($200) by a percentage that represents each member’s contribution of losses to the combined group’s loss. Corporation Q will have its portion of the combined loss from the 2013 taxable year once again determined by multiplying Group P’s combined loss of ($200) by a percentage that represents each member’s contribution of losses to the combined group’s loss and as illustrated below.
2011 NYS
NOL after
Member carryforward
Q
R
Member's
% of total combined Member's
2012 2013 2014 losses of Share of Member's
NYS NYS NYS Losses by all Combined Total
NOL NOL NOL Member members 2013 Loss UNOL
$0 ($100) $0 ($100) 40% ($80) ($80)
$0 $50 $0 $0 0% $0 $0
($150)
T $0 ($150) $0 ($150) 60% ($120) ($270)
($150)
Totals $0 ($200) $0 ($250) 100% ($200) ($350)
Corporation T’s NYS loss of $150 in 2014 is not included in the losses by member amounts above. This is because the NYS NOL sustained in that year by the combined group that included Corporation T (i.e. Group P’s 2014 combined ENI of ($50)) was not included in the determination of Group P’s UNOL (since, as explained above, there was no corresponding Federal NOL sustained by Group P in that taxable year and available for carryover).
Example 6:
Acme Company, a calendar-year taxpayer, began business in 2009 and became taxable in NYS in 2009. Acme Company's base year is calendar year 2014. Acme Company had a change in ownership effective January 1, 2013, subjecting its Federal losses sustained in 2009 through 2012 to IRC section 382 limitations. The ACME company’s annual section 382 limitation amount is $2,500. After the change in ownership Acme Company continued to file on a separate basis for NYS purposes. Acme Company had Federal/NYS losses for tax years beginning before 1/1/2015, as follows:
Federal NOLs not
Eligible NOL carryover
Federal NOLs subject to IRC section 382
2009
Acme Company
"As if" Federal subject to IRC section amounts 12/31/2014
382
Arising Arising from NOLs from NOLs subject to not subject
2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 to IRC
IRC section section 382
382
(2009-2012) (2013-2014)
($15,000) ($10,000) ($12,000) ($20,000)
FTI ($8,000) ($5,000)
($15,000) ($10,000) ($12,000) ($20,000)
Balance
NY
($8,000) ($5,000) ($50,000) ($13,000)
($20,000) ($12,000) ($10,000) ($18,000)
ENI ($5,000) ($4,000)
($20,000) ($12,000) ($10,000) ($18,000)
Balance ($5,000) ($4,000) ($60,000) ($9,000)
Computation of Acme Company's eligible NOL carryover amounts and UNOL. Since Acme Company has both Federal NOLs available for carryover that are subject to IRC section 382 limitations (from 2009 through 2012) and Federal NOLs available for carryover that are not subject to IRC section 382 limitations (from 2013 and 2014), Acme Company must separately compute its eligible Federal NOL carryover amount for each, and also must separately compute its corresponding eligible NYS NOL carryover amount for each. Acme Company’s Federal NOLs available for carryover from 2009 through 2012 total ($57,000). However, due to the IRC section 382 limitation, the maximum amount of such NOLs available for carryover that can be included in its eligible Federal NOL carryover amount arising from Federal NOLs subject to IRC section 382 limitations is limited to ($50,000) which is the annual section 382 limitation amount of ($2,500) multiplied by 20, less the amount of any such NOLs actually deducted (zero in this example as 2013 and 2014 are loss years). Acme Company’s Federal NOLs available for carryover from 2013 and 2014, totaling ($13,000), are not subject to section 382 limitations and are included in its eligible Federal NOL carryover amount arising from Federal NOLs not subject to IRC section 382 limitations. Acme Company's UNOL is ($59,000), which is the sum of the following amounts: (i) the lesser of the eligible Federal or NYS NOL carryover amounts arising from Federal NOLs subject to IRC section 382 limitations; and
(ii) the lesser of the eligible Federal or NYS NOL carryover amounts arising from Federal NOLs not subject to IRC section 382 limitations.
Example 6 (continued):
Eligible Federal NOL carryover amounts (A)
Eligible NYS NOL carryover amounts (B)
Lesser of (A) and (B)
UNOL
Arising Arising from from
NOLs NOLs not subject to subject to
IRC IRC section section
382
382
2013-2014
2009-2012
($50,000) ($13,000)
($60,000) ($9,000)
($50,000) ($9,000)
($59,000)